

by Daniel Hinds
Midnight Syndicate are one of those too-rare
outfits - one that has created a sound entirely their own. Taking
the most chilling horror movie soundtracks as inspiration, the duo of Edward
Douglas and Gavin Goszka create incredibly rich symphonies of terror.
This is psychological music that creates a different story in the mind
of each listener, though each album starts from a basic concept.
With four albums under their belts, it was well past time that I caught
up with these guys to get the full story. Ed was kind enough to fill
in the blanks for me…
Let me start with the most basic question - the
name. It has a nice sense of mystery to it. How did you guys
decide upon 'Midnight Syndicate' for your musical endeavors?
I came up with the name while conceptualizing
the band in '90. I knew I wanted to create a band that made these
soundtracks to imaginary films and was really trying to come up with an
appropriate name. When I came up with "Midnight Syndicate" the whole
idea of a mysterious syndicate that went by that moniker immediately sparked
some images for me and so it felt like the perfect fit.
The new album, Gates of Delirium, seems
to be a little more conceptual than the previous ones. How did you come
up with the whole story behind Haverghast Asylum?
A lot of the inspiration for this album's music
and themes came from researching the time period and actually visiting
turn-of-the-century asylums. It was a really scary period in mental
treatment history and visiting the actual institutions instilled some pretty
vivid images that definitely influenced my writing. I also watch
a lot of horror films so there were plenty of images from the cinema that
worked their way in as well ("Bram Stoker's Dracula," "House on Haunted
Hill," "Disturbing Behavior," "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest").
King Diamond came to mind when I first put on
Gates
of Delirium, both because of the story and just the eerie vibe that
it generates. Was he an influence on you guys at all?
Musically, he is one of our largest influences.
Last year we had a great thing happen to us in regard to that. We
found out (while at a concert) that King and his guitarist Andy LaRocque
had chosen Born of the Night and Realm of Shadows as the
official pre-show music for the tour. We had never contacted
them before then, so that made it even more surprising and exciting.
Having our work recognized by one of our biggest musical influences was
one of the best experiences on this journey.
How did you create all of the various sound effects
used throughout the record? And how about the wailing of the insane?
We had the pleasure of working with a very talented
troupe of actors which really helped make the CD what it is. In addition
to being one of the featured voices, actor, Ted Neroda actually worked
with me in the development stages of several of the sound effects pieces.
The project also gave me the opportunity to work with some talent from
the band's past: Trishalana "Adelaide" Kopaitich was heavily featured in
the films of our '98 multimedia concerts and Christopher Robichaud had
previously worked with me as a lyricist and vocalist on our self-titled
debut, as well as acting in the multimedia concert films and "The Dead
Matter (1996)."
As far as the writing goes, it appears most of
the compositions are done entirely by either you or Gavin. How do
you manage to keep such a consistent tone throughout the album?
Every once in a while, I'll think about that
and be amazed that there isn't a larger discrepancy between each of our
contributions to the albums. Fortunately for us, I think that Gavin and
I are just on the same page with respect to the musical direction of the
band. It's really been that way since we started working together
on Born of the Night and that's the key. Before we start writing
for an album, we spend a lot of time fleshing out as many details on the
world we plan to create so that helps. Additionally, although we
compose separately, we are continually playing tracks for each other during
the writing process and making adjustments throughout to do what is right
for the album.
How much time is generally put into writing and
recording a Midnight Syndicate album?
I started writing for Realm of Shadows
close to 11 months before it's release. For Gates of Delirium it
was the same - although for that album, I pulled some asylum-based ideas
I had developed back as early as the "Born of the Night" sessions.
Producing a Midnight Syndicate album is a long and very involved process
which is why we are taking a short break after Gates.
We plan on releasing our next album in March of 2003, so we will start
writing for it in January of 2002 with pre-production starting as early
as September of this year.
When you are composing songs, do you just sit
down with your gear and let it flow or do you usually have some melodies
or ideas in mind before you even start?
It's a mixture, sometimes I will sit down at
the keyboard with some images in mind and just allow the music to flow.
Other times I will be out on a nice rainy day or moonlit evening, get a
melody in mind, and have to dictate it into my mini tape recorder for future
reference.
The obvious comparison to your work is that of
a movie soundtrack. Do you have any particular favorite scores and
composers?
Some of my favorite composers are: Danny Elfman,
Hans Zimmer, John Williams, Wojciech Kilar, John Carpenter, Elliot Goldenthal,
Jerry Goldsmith, and James Horner. Among my favorite movie scores
are: "Aliens," "Bram Stoker's Dracula," "Interview with a Vampire," "The
Rock," "Halloween," "Gettysburg," "Rocky 1, 2, and 4," and "Star Wars:
Empire Strikes Back" to name a few.
Have you actually done any film work yourselves?
If not, is that something you would like to pursue in the future?
I co-wrote and directed a gothic/horror feature
called "The Dead Matter" back in 1996. It had a good story but was
held back by a lack of budget so I hope to re-shoot that someday.
There was also quite a bit of filmmaking involved in our '98 concerts and
probably will be a good degree needed for our upcoming concerts so it's
definitely in the cards. As far as scoring goes. We have received
offers from several independent film companies and Universal Studios even
requested our CDs for future consideration. It is definitely something
that I see myself doing in the future. It's just that right now,
Midnight Syndicate / Entity Productions is taking up most of my time.
Do you guys ever perform live? Would you
ever like to take Midnight Syndicate on the road?
We are currently developing a live show and plan
to play out in 2003.
I think the most difficult element to Midnight
Syndicate is the fact that, because of our style of music, we can't just
walk into a bar or venue, set up, and start playing. Making personal
contact with your fans is really important to an artist and not being able
to do that has been very frustrating (especially over the past two years).
Most bands that have been fortunate enough to see sales like we have, have
already toured the U.S. and Europe.
Midnight Syndicate did do a show in March of 1998.
It was a multimedia concert to promote the first Midnight Syndicate (self-titled)
album. The concert blended original film, live music, computer animation,
and theatrics. It was a very involved and resource-intensive project. So
much so that it has really held us back from developing a new one.
Despite that though, we are currently developing a live show that we plan
to take to select venues in 2003. If for no other reason, we'd like
the opportunity to meet and hang out with the people who have supported
us over the years.
I was a bit surprised to learn that you are actually
a big fan of metal. Can you tell me a bit about how you got into
metal and who some of your favorites are?
Most people are surprised to hear that Gavin
and I are big metal fans and even more surprised to hear that bands like
King Diamond and Black Sabbath, are big influences for the music of Midnight
Syndicate.
Before Midnight Syndicate, I was a bassist in
several heavy metal/punk rock bands. I've also been doing a heavy
metal show ("Mr.E.D.") on a Cleveland college station since 1990. Over
the years, it's developed into more of a 70's/80's metal show since that
is my favorite era of metal. Some of my favorites are Kiss, Metallica,
Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, White Lion, King Diamond/Mercyful
Fate, Poison, and Manowar. Even though I favor the old-style I do
have some recent favorites like Rob Zombie, Rammstein, TSOB, and Theatre
of Tragedy. My new favorite is Nightwish. Unbelievable band.
Their last two albums are probably my favorite metal albums released in
years.
The term 'metal' seems to get thrown at everything
from Korn to Mayhem these days - what does it mean to you and how do you
feel about how the scene at large has (d)evolved over time?
Heavy metal is still heavy metal, it just has
a lot more subdivisions now. My only problem is when the media/radio programmers
assume that one of those subdivisions (like hard-core for example) is indicative
of the entire metal scene. A lot of good bands get overlooked.
For me, I prefer more melodic metal. I think
the reason I am not into as much of the new, domestic metal is the lack
of the melodic vocal style. There are fewer Halfords, Tates, and Stanleys,
and more nondescript death, grunge, and rap vocals. I don't have
a problem with those styles at all, it's just that bands like that have
to have incredible riffs and hooks (like Pantera's Vulgar Display of
Power) to keep my attention through a whole set. I really
like the European metal scene. It's still an arena for all of the
different subdivisions of metal, allowing bands like Nightwish, Rhapsody,
and TSOB, to really push the boundaries of the genre.
You also work as a DJ in your spare time - how
did you get into that and tell me a bit about your current show?
The show is called "Mr.E.D." and it is on every
Friday from 12noon-3pm on WJCU 88.7FM (http://www.jcu.edu/wjcu)
in Cleveland. As I mentioned, it's primarily a 70's/80's metal show
with the metal shows proceeding it focusing on newer metal. In addition
to the good ol' standard fare (e.g. Kiss, Priest, Maiden, Sabbath) I really
enjoy digging through our vinyl collection and spinning lost classics (e.g.
Alcatraz, Lucifer's Friend, Angel Witch, Saxon, etc.)
When I first heard Midnight Syndicate, I was a
bit put-off by the somewhat generic song titles (this would have been circa
Born
of the Night). Later on I realized this was probably intentional,
in order to give the listener more room to create their own story based
on the music. Is it important to you that people bring their own imagination
to your music?
That is the single most important element to
everything we do artistically. Midnight Syndicate is all about stimulating
the listeners' imaginations so that they can create their own images, worlds,
and interpretations of the music.
Words, like music, can spark the imagination,
so that is really the sole purpose of the song titles on our albums.
Always intentionally vague so as not to interfere with anyone's interpretation
of the piece but enough to hint at something around the corner.
Realm of Shadows is still my favorite album
of yours so far, as it just has the most intense sense of desolation to
it - a truly chilling work of art. Can you tell me a little about
what inspired that particular record and your own feelings about it?
For that album, I really immersed myself in gothic/fantasy
artwork and cinema - sometimes writing an entire piece based on a single
picture or image from a film. I think we really captured the essence of
what we were going for. When people ask me for the most haunting
of the Midnight Syndicate CDs, I never hesitate to recommend Realm.
You have utilized net sources such as mp3.com
to help distribute your work. How successful has that been in spreading
the word of Midnight Syndicate?
I think mp3.com is one of the best resources
out there. Then you have great Internet stores/promotional sites
like CDBaby that are also helping independent artists. Since the
beginning of Midnight Syndicate, the Internet in general has been a tremendous
ally for us. In my opinion, the most important tool for the independent
label.
What is your opinion on the issue of Napster and
other peer-to-peer sharing programs?
I wish they would regulate themselves like mp3.com
does. The problem with Napster is that, despite what they say, they are
out for themselves with little to no regard for artists. Musical
artists (especially independents) are already getting screwed by the industry.
If these sites really cared about the artists and wanted to help them out,
they would at least allow the artists to choose which tracks are posted.
Give musicians some say as to how many and which of their tracks are distributed
for free. With sites like mp3.com, everyone wins. The artists
have control over the mp3s available and potential customers can listen
to CD-quality tracks before they buy. Mp3.com even takes the next step
and pays small royalties to artists for downloads which is certainly a
fair thing to do.
You guys are one of the few bands to garner praise
across the board, from electronic to goth to metal to more mainstream critics.
Have you actually received any negative feedback from anyone?
A while back, I think there was one critic out
of Seattle that had mentioned that he didn't really care for our song titles
in a review of Born of the Night but.... :)
No, fortunately for us, the press (especially
on the Internet) has been very supportive. No real negative
feedback although we occasionally hear that some reviewers and fans would
like to see us do longer tracks. I feel fortunate that the reviewers
in all of the different genres have been able to keep such an open mind
to what we are doing. Anytime someone does something different, there
are always going to be those that want to shoot it down. Fortunately we
haven't come across that much.
I guess, every band should expect at least one
negative review of any album they release. Fortunately, if it's only
one or two reviews, then it doesn't lend much credence to those reviewers.
Almost all of our less savory reviews have come from one local entertainment
weekly but we won Best Gothic Act at their reader-voted music awards, so
in the end, you just have to accept that everyone has their own opinion
and roll with it.
Do you have any special hobbies outside of music?
Or do you even have time for hobbies?
Not a lot of free time unfortunately. When
I do have time, I really like watching horror films, as well as playing
role-playing and computer games. I am definitely addicted to certain
computer games. If I sit down with a good Roller Coaster Tycoon
or
Baldur's Gate scenario, I could easily waste the day away...
extremely addicted.
What is next for Midnight Syndicate? (I
read somewhere a possible "industrial remix" album - I'd love to take a
shot at doing a remix for you guys if you're interested!)
That would be great. Yes, an industrial
remix album is in the cards, although probably not in the near future.
Right now, we are taking a well-needed short break. We plan to start
on the next album in January. We will also be working on ideas
for the live show that will proceed that. The industrial remix album
as well as a dark-fantasy album are planned for release after that so there's
a lot in the works. I'm very excited to see what the future holds.
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