by Daniel Hinds
Never keen on fitting comfortably into pre-defined
categories like 'black metal' or 'Viking metal,' Norway's Borknagar has
chalked up three albums and a highly-respected reputation for producing
unique, progressive music that is as extreme and brutal as it is epic and
melodic. Formed and held together over the years by guitarist Øystein
Garnes Brun, Borknagar has seen various members come and go, including
members of Enslaved, Arcturus, Ulver, Immortal and Gorgoroth.
Currently, the band is a trio, consisting of Øystein, vocalist Simen
Hestnæs and guitarist Jens F. Ryland, and they just finished a U.S.
tour (with the aid of Nick from Cradle of Filth behind the drumkit), opening
for Emperor.
As the tour came to an end, the band did a
press day from Century Media's offices and I had a chance to pick Øystein's
brain about a thing or two…
You guys just finished up a US tour. How
did it go?
Quite cool, actually. At the end of the day, it turned out really
good for us, I think. We had a couple of excellent shows and, in
general, the shows were pretty good. We had some bad, of course,
but generally good.
Did all the bands get along pretty good?
Yeah, we had a really nice time.
Was this your first time playing in the U.S.?
Yes, it was.
What was the biggest surprise for you about it?
I don't know, I didn't really know what to expect, so I came over here
pretty open-minded. I think the audience was quite good. Sometimes,
we had problems with the audience during the intro music, because we're
kind of atmospheric and the U.S. audience is tied up in this death metal
stuff. That's fair enough, but I think I was expecting them to be
a little bit more open-minded. [Øystein followed this with
a qualifying statement that unfortunately got lost due to our poor phone
connection--ed.]
Did you have any problems with Christian groups
protesting the shows?
Oh no, nothing like that.
Do you write while you're on the road?
Not music, but I write some lyrics actually. I'm not that creative,
just took some notes and stuff, so when I get home I can [work on them].
We wrote most of the next album before we left, so when we get home we'll
probably start arranging the songs and write some more.
How is the new material shaping up compared to
your previous work?
Of course there will be some progression, but I think we'll keep the
same mood, the same vibe so to speak. I think this new album will
be a little bit more 'rock' maybe. For instance, we're going to use
a little bit more of the grim vocals than we did on The Archaic Course.
We have to go to the studio and see what it comes out like.
Do you have a studio and producer lined up yet?
Yeah, we're going to go to The Abyss Studios with the guy from Hyprocrisy,
Peter [Tatgren].
Have you found a permanent drummer or bassist
yet?
No, Simen is probably going to do the bass, at least on the albums
in the future, as he is really enjoying playing the bass. I guess
we'll leave it like that with the bass situation. When it comes to
the drums, we're probably going to work with Nick [from Cradle of Filth],
he suggested doing the new album with us. We'll see, I don't really
know what's going to happen yet.
Could you explain a little bit about the title
The
Archaic Course?
It's basically a following-up title to The Olden Domain, to
give the audience the impression that we're keeping on with what we're
doing. I think a lot of people expected us on The Archaic Course
to completely sell-out, do something commercial and wimp out, so we wanted
to kind of state the we're doing what we've always done and will keep on
doing. Also, I think it's a perfect title to give people the idea
about the whole approach of the band.
Do you have a title for the next record yet?
Yeah, but we're a little bit unsure at the moment so I can't really
say…
You mentioned that you've written some lyrics
on the road and I was curious what it is that usually inspires you to write?
I usually write lyrics when I feel relaxed and stuff. When we
did all this driving by bus, I was just looking out at the desert when
we drove from Texas to Arizona, I got a lot of ideas and just wrote things
down. That's basically it, nothing too complicated.
Religious themes have always been a big part of
metal lyrics over the years and I was wondering what your take on organized
religion is. Your lyrics seem to deal a lot more with individual
spirituality rather than any kind of socialized religion.
My view on religion is that I really dislike all kinds of religion
and organized beliefs. I see myself as kind of an extreme individualist
and I think that is reflected in the lyrics as well. I think bands
that always think about religion, that's fair enough and I respect that,
but it's not my way of doing it. I want to avoid being any kind of
preacher and just do my own thing. I don't want to tell people the
'right' and the 'wrong' way, I want to just have a pure form of art or
something like that.
Most of the reviews I've seen of The Archaic
Course have been really positive and I was wondering if you at all
surprised by the success you guys have had?
It's cool… I'm here at the offices of Century Media and we're
getting to read a lot of reviews and stuff and a lot of it does seem very
positive. It's flattering, of course, but at the end of the day if
we get some bad reviews, I really don't think it's going to affect me.
I just do my thing, as long as I feel comfortable with the music and the
band, that's good enough for me.
When did you first get into music and start playing
guitar?
Well, I've listened to it all my life. My father was a great
collector of music from the 70s, like Black Sabbath and Pink Floyd, so
I've always been around it. I didn't get my first guitar until I
was fifteen-years-old. I listened to stuff like Maiden, Metallica,
and eventually got into death metal and black metal, Bathory, Venom - stuff
like that. But I've always been open-minded and listened to all kinds
of music.
Did you have any lessons?
No, I was self-taught. Actually, [laughs] my mother bought me
a few hours of lessons, but it didn't really work out. I was too
much into metal… [laughs]
Have you had pretty good luck from a business
perspective?
Yeah, but it seems like when we have to go tour, go to the studio or
whatever, there is always some major problems we have to go through.
But at the end of the day, we do pretty good. I've come to realize
that this is a shitty business, but as long as we keep ourselves focused
on what we're doing, we're okay.
Where do you tend to do the best, as far as album
sales?
I think it's Germany still. Mid-Europe seems to be the best -
Germany, Italy, Austria, stuff like that.
Looking ahead, what do you hope you'll be doing
ten years from now?
I don't know… I hope to do some movie soundtracks, something
like that. That's my big dream to make music for film, more that
kind of thing. Of course, I hope to keep this band going, but I don't
see myself playing black metal. I don't know really, I don't have
any definite plans. |