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by Daniel Hinds
[Interview
conducted July 2005]
As Doomsday Machine rolls forth, the slow
build-up from relative serenity to neck-breaking brutality is a perfect
reflection of Arch Enemy's own rise from Sweden's extreme metal underground.
What began as a fusion of virtuoso guitar work and melodic death metal has
evolved into one of the most devastating outfits on today's scene. As good as
2003's Anthems of Rebellion was at getting the band's foot in the door,
Doomsday Machine kicks it down and announces that Arch Enemy has arrived
in no uncertain terms. The speed, power and complexity the band is renowned for
is accompanied by a heaviness worthy of the album's dreadnought namesake. Just
as the band was embarking on this year's highly successful Ozzfest outing,
guitarist Michael Amott and mic destroyer Angela Gossow called in and were
clearly amped and ready to conquer the world.
Angela, a few questions for you first. When it comes to
death metal, you seem like something of a purist – would you say that’s true?
Angela: Yes, my tastes in death metal are very old-school. I like the dirty,
unpolished, maybe out of sync production of the old Morbid Angels and Obituaries
of the world, the life they put into it. Today there are a lot of high-tech
blastbeats and the feeling gets a bit lost for me. It's maybe more extreme, but
that's not the point and the musical aspects get lost a bit.
During the recording of the new album, I understand there
was a very specific microphone you wanted to use.
Angela: Yeah, a good old German one. I wanted to use a hand-held microphone
this time. The normal ones you use live, they distort too much, like the SM58.
It's a great live microphone but way too much distortion so you can't record
with that. Our producer, he knows a lot about this kind of equipment and he
said Sennheiser microphones, they have a couple of really good ones that they
record like radio sessions with. They interview a person against a really noisy
background and it still picks up that person's voice very clearly. So he went
out to find one of these, the Sennheiser MD-21, and there's just a few left
because I think they are form the '60s or '70s, really old. He actually found
one, we tried it out and it sounded great. When you have a handheld, you move
more obviously and the distance from your mouth to the microphone changes all
the time, and that microphone picks up the same signal still, so you can't hear
that even though it's happening. That's very important when you're recording,
that you don't get a very distant sound and a very close sound, but one that is
always the same. But unfortunately they don't have them wireless or I would use
that live as well. I hate wires so I have to always get a wireless.
I saw that sports was listed on your hobbies list – is
that watching or playing?
Angela: Oh no, I don't watch sports - it's painfully boring to watch other
people run after the ball or whatever. I'm very, very active, I'm one of those
restless people, I can't really sit around. I didn't do any sports until I was
24 or 25 because I was just working my ass off in an office. I was tired but I
couldn't sleep at all every evening, like my mind was tired but my body was wide
awake, and when I discovered sports it solved a lot of problems. I don't feel
good when I haven't done anything. When you go on tour, you do something every
night, running around on stage, and that's a workout in itself, but when you're
home… I can't just sit around. I can feel my body getting restless and angry
with me, 'Use the muscles you've got, you're fucking degenerating right now!'
(laughs) So I move as much as I can, I go running, I lift weights, I go
swimming, whatever is possible.
All right, now a couple for Michael. It seems like, after
lead guitar was somewhat banished in the 90s, it is finally making a comeback.
What are your feelings about that?
Michael: I hear a lot of attempts at lead guitar. (laughs) I was
reading Guitar World the other day and a lot of bands that you never thought
would have guitar solos are saying, ‘We’re incorporating lead guitar, we’ve been
listening to Iron Maiden, blah blah blah.’ And I’m just like…’Fuck you.’
(laughs) We do it well and we’ve been doing it all the time. For those first
two albums, it was like we were standing there with a flag, going, ‘Hey, we play
guitar solos! Why is nobody behind us?’ (laughs) Apart from the obvious people
like Zakk Wylde and Steve Vai, but that is kind of a different style – in our
genre we were kind of alone. I think we were ahead of the game in that
department. But I sound kind of negative there and I’m all for it. It just
seems like there are so many trends in music now and metal as well. People are
so worried about what the other bands are doing and when one thing takes off and
is successful, everybody wants to be exactly the same. To me, that is complete
bullshit. Music should be from the soul, it should be from the heart. It
shouldn’t be from listening to what other bands are doing I just prefer music
by musicians who stay true to their… you know, if you were a nu-metal band in
the 90s and playing no lead guitar, I think they should stay that way now as
well. There’s a lot of fakeness out there.
Japan was kind of the first nation to really embrace Arch
Enemy. Have you maintained that popularity in Japan over the years?
Michael: It's still very good. It's true, that was the first country
that really picked up on the band and we developed a fanbase over there and we
just stuck with it. We still do at least one or two tours over there on every
album. I was just over there actually a couple weeks ago, I did some promotion
for The Doomsday Machine. We've been to Japan a lot in the last few years -
this was my fifteenth visit since '97. It's great, especially for me being kind
of a connoisseur of hard rock and guitar music - everything is released over
there on CD. You just go to record stores and find all kinds of crazy stuff
from these 70s bands that nobody gives a shit about in the rest of the world.
It's a pretty amazing place.
On a more serious note, I wanted to ask both of you what
your thoughts were about the London bombings recently?
Michael: I was in Japan on the promo tour I told you about. I didn’t
hear about it all day and then late in the evening, I called my manager – it’s 2
o’clock in the morning in Japan and I was awake, jet-lagged – I called my
manager’s assistant in London, they are based in London. I’m like,
‘Everything’s going well here, blah blabh blah,’ and he’s like, ‘Well, you
haven’t heard what’s happened over here then’ and he told me about it. It’s
devastating, you know. We spend so much time over there because our management
company is based over there. I don’t know… what can you say? It’s just very
disturbing. I can’t really comprehend why people want to do stuff like that.
It’s like 9/11 as well. Hard to comprehend what goes on in these people’s
minds, being a complete atheist myself. Whatever opinions I have, whatever
views or values that I have, I don’t feel the urge to force them upon other
people. As a musician, some people get very political but I keep a really low
profile. I have my own beliefs and my own standards, but I don’t really feel
the need to push them on other people. I’m pretty tolerant I think. We have a
lot of friends in London, so we were all just calling to make sure people were
okay and thankfully nobody that we knew was injured.
Angela: We were in Italy doing promotion, me and Daniel,
and Daniel's brother Adrian and his wife both live in London, around the corner
from Liverpool Street, one of the bomb [sites]. It's terrible that it happened
but at least there weren't too many causalities, I think 50 or 60. It could
have been much worse. I see the reactions of the London people and I think
they're very brave, like 'Fuck you, we're not afraid.' I think that's the right
thing to do because if you get scared by it, then they've basically won. You
can't make any place that safe, especially the Underground because there are so
many people in there every day. All you can do is just show them that they
can't wear you down. For us, it means there will be a lot more security at all
the airports, which I'm actually glad about because you don't want anybody like
this on your plane, but it makes things so much more difficult. And it always
hits the wrong people, you know, like innocent children, mothers, fathers on the
way to work… I don't understand how somebody can think that way. There is
something terribly going wrong in this world at the moment and I don't think
that American politics make it much better.
Angela, last time I interviewed you, we talked about the
role of organized religion in a lot of today's world problems - how about the
political side of things?
Angela: Well, the problem with Islam culture is the politics and
religion are extremely mixed up, religion as politics and politics as religion.
I think that's why you can influence people that badly and make them do things
that are completely… I don't know. If you read the Koran, it says if you kill
somebody, you're not going to be in Paradise, you're going to be in Hell. I
don't know how they can twist and turn that in a way that you can get rewarded
for killing innocent people just because they have the wrong ideas or the wrong
religion. That's what mankind does; people use everything to manipulate others,
especially religion, and that makes these countries very dangerous at the
moment. I think that's why it's not going to stop. They were born into that
system and that belief, they get brainwashed from day one, and I think it's
going to be impossible to stop that to be honest. It doesn't really have to do
with the religion itself, it is just what the leaders do with it, how they use
that tool in a very evil way. All you can do is try to reach these people and
talk to them, inform them that there is a very different world out there. It's
really hard to change somebody's mind if he is getting fed that since he was a
baby basically. In Germany, we're a very democratic country and I think we are
really lucky to be born in these countries and have at least some choice. We
can get some education, watch the news, and get some kind of objective opinion.
Religion is still very strong in the Western world as well and when you listen
to what the Pope says, you're like, 'Oh my god…' That's really fucked up I
think, what he says about abortion and women and marriage. Whenever he says
something, it has a lot of political effects as well. It's a dangerous
combination, religion and politics, but it happens all over the world.
Our leaders here in America cross that line far too much,
too.
Angela: Yeah, like with the homosexuals - why can't they just let them
do what they want to do?
Getting back to the music, will there be an actual single
from this album?
Angela: Yeah, I think the UK is going to do it. In Europe, [the album] comes
out later than in America so I think that's what they're going to do, have a
single for "Nemesis" and put a couple other tracks on it. We already shot the
video for it.
How did that go?
Angela: Good. It was over two days and we tried to get as much done as
possible, so basically you end up shooting the day, the night, and the next day,
that's how it always goes. Everybody is always totally fried in the end. But I
saw the first rough cuts and they look really good. I think it's worth the pain
and the effort you put into it if you get a good video out of it.
What's next for Arch Enemy?
Michael: We’re going to stay busy. After Ozzfest, we’re going to have three
weeks off, which we’ll probably need by then, and then we’re going to tour in
Europe, headlining, then Japan, Australia, and come back to America after that.
That’ll take us up 'til Christmas basically. Then Christmas off and start it
all up again. We’re going to come back to America 3 or 4 times on this album,
that’s the plan anyway. America will be absolutely sick of us by the time we’re
done.
Looking at the band's message board, I see people from
South America and India all begging you to come play in their countries. Do you
have any new territories lined up for this round of touring?
Angela: We're definitely going to go to Australia this year because we haven't
been there and it's a fantastic place to tour and we have a lot of fans who are
begging us. South America, I don't know. We want to tour South America but
we're looking for maybe a bigger band that we can support and ride on their back
because South America is kind of a bit tricky when it comes to reliability of
promoters and all that stuff. I've seen a lot of bands try to tour over there
and they basically had a lot of bad luck: half the shows got canceled, they
didn't get their money, they were stopped by the police, that kind of thing. So
I think we'd be a lot safer [going] with another band that is more experienced
in that market. It would be great if Judas Priest would take us out. (laughs) |